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  AUSTRALIA | Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Society Appear Before Child Abuse Inquiry | Thursday 11 April, 2013

  by jwleaks in

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  jehovah's witnesses say it is not their responsibility to report child sex abuse to police unless mandatory reporting legislation is in place.. a victorian inquiry on thursday heard that when a jehovah's witness leader hears allegations of abuse they are directed immediately to contact the society's legal department to check their obligations under state law.. jehovah's witness legal counsel rachel van witsen said elders were not expected to know their legal obligations.. "this is done to ensure elders fully comply with any legal requirements that may be applicable in the state in which they reside," she said.. "in victoria if there was mandatory reporting the immediate advice would be to report that immediately.".

  the society's director terrence o'brien said the decision to take the allegations to police lay with the victim.. "without mandatory reporting we don't feel that as ministers of religion that's our obligation to do that," mr o'brien said.. however, the organisation would encourage the victim to report it and would co-operate fully with police, he said.. ms van witsen said elders would make an exception if they felt the child was threatened.. "we would report that to appropriate authorities," she told the inquiry.. "we're about stopping child abuse.".

  two ministers have been removed from the society for child sex abuse in 40 years of records, the parliamentary inquiry heard.. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/04/11/20/59/jehovah-s-witnesses-stay-in-line-on-abuse.

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  Dismissing servant

  "However, the organisation would encourage the victim to report it "

  Nope....this is a blatant lie. I hope he will be confronted with this.
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  What should replace religion ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  2. beliefs

  here is an interesting speech by daniel dennett.

  i thought it was a balanced and honest talk,.

  bringing out both sides of this purposed plausible suggestion.

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  Yes, but in order to do that secularism has to offer something in cultural/social aspect. I'm now talking about mainstream religion that have huge social and cultural impact in our societies. This is not about beliefs..not at all. I wonder how many in this thread that have actually watched/listened to that Dennet video.
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  How Christian thinking was corrupted by Paul's clever explanations

  by Terry in

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  2. bible

  when modern writers, thinkers, believers in christianity talk about their religion they are almost always depending on saul of tarsus (paul) rather than.

  jesus.. there is a good reason for this.

  paul wrote letters.

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  Dismissing servant

  I find it a bit interesting to speculate over Pauls mental/psychological condition.

  A lot of researchers have stated that he may have been suffering dfrom temporal lobe epilepsia. This could explain a lot of his actions and writings.

  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1032067/?page=1

  Or, you can just google temporal lobe epilepsy + paul You will get a lot of interesting stuff to read.
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  new light on FDS and 1914

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the society claims now, that before 1914/1919 there was no fds, this means also, russel was not part of it, he was not the channel from god.. then the calculation for 1914, which russel made popular and promoted, was done in a time, when god revealed actually nothing, does this prepare the way to finally dump 1914 chronology ?

  approaching the 100 year anniversary for christs supposed rulership, it becomes anyway more and more ridicolous.. i know, some argue 1914 is essential for their being chosen 1919, but now they say, they are somehow not appointed over the belongings yet, so also this aspect looses significance.

  and the inspection of the temple can begin anytime anyway, it was convinient to link it to 1914 but i think its not really necessary.

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  It's possible you are right!

  I don't think it's just coincidence that they made this change in "understanding" now in 2013.
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  What is the role of the rest of the Anointed,please ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am a little confused, i have to admit it is laziness/nausea, i cannot make myself read the latest rag that spews out the new shite, but my question is, what is the future role of the rest of the anointed ?.

  if the fds, which now consists of a handful of men, is going to be "appointed over all jesus' belongings" are the rest of the anointed not only redundant now, but into eternity too ?.

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  OK, I see. Billions of kings ruling over remade clones of dead people.

  Jurasic Park on stereoids!?
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  What should replace religion ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is an interesting speech by daniel dennett.

  i thought it was a balanced and honest talk,.

  bringing out both sides of this purposed plausible suggestion.

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  Dismissing servant

  As I understand it he is not talking of the beliefs of the religion, but of the cultural/social aspects of it. Religion has played a huge cultural and social role in our societies during history. It has created a lot of traditions as well.

  I think Daniel Dennets point is to discuss how to create a secular culture with secular traditions that have a social function, in the same way that religious ones had before.
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  What is the role of the rest of the Anointed,please ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am a little confused, i have to admit it is laziness/nausea, i cannot make myself read the latest rag that spews out the new shite, but my question is, what is the future role of the rest of the anointed ?.

  if the fds, which now consists of a handful of men, is going to be "appointed over all jesus' belongings" are the rest of the anointed not only redundant now, but into eternity too ?.

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  "The bible is clear that all who are "overcomers" will rule as kings and priests with Jesus."

  Millions/billions of kings ruling over whom?
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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Simon: "

  "This is going to fester until someone is named and shamed. I see no reason not to - they committed a huge breach of trust and I don't understand why the main concern seems to be to protect their privacy when they didn't show others the same consideration."

  Of course it will. If the AAWA want to restore some of their credibility, the only thing to do is to delete the group from Facebook, and restart it with maximum security. No possibilities for individuals to add new members.

  I don't understand why they didn't do it at once. As Juan Viejo stated, it looked like there were WT-apologist in the group. They could be outing names, of course, but also sabotage the actions and intentions of the AAWA.group.

  So, there is only one thing to do. Delete the group, and restart it i a more secure way.
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  What do you believe about the bible?

  by bethelyellowdollarbag in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm interested in how we all view the bible?.

  let me start by offering three different options:.

  a.. a book that at best may have cultural or historical interest but that is it.. b.. a divinely inspired guide that i consult to make important life choices.

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  Lost: If God really exist, he surely had found a better and effective way to communicate with mankind. But, probably he/she's not interested in communicating. Otherwise he should have got himself better PR-people.

  Ok, OK, I know we have some self-proclaimed "prophets" among us at this very community. Aswell as the Messiah.
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  The Compartmentalization Sympthoms Of The Governing Body's New Light On The Faithful And Discrete Slave Prophecy Fantasy

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. beliefs

  huge amounts of compartmentalization to coup with cognitive dissonance.

  i'm sure 90% of all readers agree with me when i say this new light is just a fantasy being played out in the minds of the governing body who originate it and in the gullible rank and file who uncritically accept it.

  though out the wt study designed to explain the new light we see rampant compartmentalization.

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  Dismissing servant

  Frankie: I find it interesting speculating about the psychological state of the GB. Don't you think they all know that all JW-teaching is just plain bullshit, and that they are in to have a comfortable life with some status (narcissistic) in the organisation? Outside the org they would be just nobody. now they are managing the organisation mainly in a damage-control mode.

  But I'm not sure. You could be right. If they are that delusional they could be really dangerous.